hardtail or dually?

remember a banshee amp is about the lightest DJ hardtail on the market atm at 4.4lbs, and its aluminium. apart from mine at 3.2lbs anyway lol, but there's no way you'd get away with riding SS on that little beast. i recon you'd lose your headtube real fast.

removable cable guides are zippy-ties. and dont even think about 3.5lbs, thats rediculously light, you'd snap it in half in three days...but if you really want that then it could be done. remember 5lbs is still a really light frame, but strong.
but i like the idea of 24" wheels on a slopestyler, iv been thinkin of makin one for myself for a while.

oh yeah how can you know the top tube length and not know the wheelbase? the "top tube length" means just about nothing in real life, seeing as it is completely dependent on the wheelbase and the seat angle.

ill take some guesswork outta it for ya- you want 1.5" x 0.9mm moly downtube and 1"x.5" x 0.9mm c/s, supertherm 0.9/0.6/0.9 toptube, double butted 27.2 supertherm seat tube, and 19mm oval butted seatstays. this will give you about a 5lb frame. and a fox36 will change your head angle from 70 to 67 degrees straight out.

oh yeah and rear travel

whats the wheelbase and what size fork you usin? (axle to crown or just a make eg marzochi DJ).

easy as. ill sort that shit out- i can get 2.5" clearance on 385mm c/s no worries. these are about the only angles that make a difference to a freeride bike, so send me a list of these angles and measurements that you had in mind- c/s length, wheelbase, head angle- and ill tell you if you're on the right track.

yeah thats more the idea. need some chainstay/seatstay bridges on it tho or it'll snap lol. model it with your suspension program and you'll see you also need to change the shock position a little but other than that, good stuff.

so did ya get what i meant about the frame? i can send u my linkage file of mine.

im goin away all weekend for the state DH champs, but PM me your email and ill send you my DJ frame file for linkage and you can have a play with that. a linkage bike like you're designing would cost over 1800 for the CNC work and crap.

nah man i, only gonna do a single pivot. thats not even a linkage driven single, thats a four bar.

actually thats a point, feel free to design it yourself on a suspension program like Linkage (if you dont have it, its free) keeping in mind the following-
-its a single pivot, bottom bracket pivoting frame without links
-keep the spring rate neutral to falling rate to avoid pedal bob
-use the longest stroke shock that you can

that way you can just do whatever geo you want, and i dont have to design it

probably best if you leave the design to me unless you can analyse the spring rate and cad a 3d model of it to check out the tire clearance...

yeah could do that for a bare frame, you'd need a triple butted toptube and seat tube for that kinda weight. you realise that the lighter you go the less durable/more flexy it'll become. but the tradeoff is that it'll be easier to trick.

erm...there is no linkages on it...its a singlepivot. but yeah not a worry. i gotta make some more anyways! ill make it super cheap for ya cause i just wanna pump some more out.

Haay man add me on msn brandondoy1@hotmail.com

hey man wassup? my frame in the album "DJ frame" is the one i was describing in case you havnt seen it.

haha

big guy: big bars

send me song f*g

Really? ill have to check that out.

Black tide was in a concert i went to.

Pretty hard stuff. You ever heard of bury your dead, hatebreed or devil driver?

I love metal dude. Who do you listen to?

"my dog listens to metal, you should too! (im 100% serious)"

So does mine.. Whenever I'm listening to music my dog just wonders up and sits next to me.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY ROB DOG!!! lol

hey f*g face

how can some people ride hubless?

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wow, that sucks

How did you broke your wrist?

Werd.

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Which vid?

ure not on msn and i had to ride home in the rain

ure a f*g

wat do u think of the red and gold

are you building on fr2 still? need to now

Hey man, this is my building blog of those jumps im building im updating it after every time i build. check it out:http://dj-in-jb.pinkbike.com/blog/vincentiadjs.html

no prob fwend(friend) lmao, have fun and tell me what you think(in the PM lmao)

cool ill PM you the track

Hmmm ... its 2:16 am here LMAO i've had a couple energy drinks. BTW do you want to make a PB park again cuz me and a friend are making Whistler in freerider 2 right now so i dont think hes mind if you join plus hes from England so then when its like 2 am here its 6pm there and its like 10 am ish(i think total guesstimate) so someone could always be working on it.

what time is it over there?

i did that when i went riding they just dont get it.

i want to race 4X but there isnt a track near me but i can get to the training days on wednesday but my rents wont let me go coz "my riding is affecting my school work"